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How much can we trust Trump, His Loyalists, Elon Musk, and other Conspiracists? (Prophecy)
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Minister Ty Alexander
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  12/28/2024
Updated 12/29/2024


I've talked about conspiracy theorists and their movements before (see Ministry Warnings for more). They spread news and teachings that are based on lies, misinformation, and corrupted truths. Donald Trump, Elon Musk, FOX News anchors, and other Trump loyalists, are some of the biggest names that believe in and adhere to the cult-like lies and teachings of these movements, like the Q or Q Anon movement. Though I've evaluated a lot of these movements' claims and teachings, I've never spoken in detail about what I found in them and their analysis.

Even the non-spiritually discerned but unbiased thinker can see many of their teachings and insights are false and designed to create a cult influence of brainwashing on people, so I haven't felt great need to speak of their claims and devices explicitly. I've already spoken much on how the devil uses lies, twisted truths, and usurps God's identities to chain believers in all that is false (see Light Within for more), and these Q and conspiracy groups are one and the same with ministries that follow the modern-day Baals believing they are following God but actually spreading false teachings and false guidance.

More and more, though, God has reminded me that a very large portion of His people believe in and follow these lies and those who spread them, such as Donald Trump, Elon Musk, Trump, MAGA and Q loyalists, and other lie and conspiracy spreaders, like Steven Bannon and Joe Rogan, who are popular podcasters. Rogan and many of his guest speakers also emphasize they're getting at the real truth and doing the right research and analysis to prove it.

But woe as me, I've seen no end to the peoples' loss of discernment. These people think they do the best research and have the best evidence of the truth when every time I analyze their statements, I find serious flaws and bias in them that prevents them from delivering what they claim - true and unbiased reporting and analysis. Though at times, they can have good insights and needed information, they too much base judgment on corrupt and flawed works while they are puffed up in their popularity and seemingly righteous causes of truth.

But woe, this is exactly how false teachers and false prophets spread their lies as well, thinking they know better and are God-led. And because these much-talking podcasters and social media influencers also speak of religious and spiritual matters, they bring upon themselves the Lord's rod given to those whom teach for God. How often have I reminded these much-speaking ones that the apostle James warned the brethren to not become teachers in great numbers? They will be given stricter judgment for their roles (James 3:1)

So now I will be more explicit in what I found in all those whom spread false and hyped-up conspiracies and speculations. Though they speak much of their knowledge and research, they also do not have the wisdom, nor training, nor knowledge necessary to understand or discern what they research and speak of, whether it is in the sciences or of spiritual matters. They believe lies, such as "everything the education system teaches is a lie," "the Deep State controls everything," or "all mainstream news media is faked and propaganda," so that they throw out good and valid knowledge while they believe in the darkness the devil has fed them.

And so, they believe in so-called "original and true doctrine," such as "the Earth is flat" and "God created Earth at the center of the universe," because they throw out everything that says they are wrong. How ironic and little do they know that techniques in brainwashing are at the center of their world to make them believe only what dark forces want them to believe.

Woe to those who refuse the truth, for their eyes are so darkened that they cannot see the devil's chains on them. Woe to their followers, for all their eyes will be further darkened and ears further stopped. For they do not heed the one sent from God, saying, Do not pay attention to myths and endless genealogies which give rise to useless speculation. Though many of these people have good intentions, they have strayed and turned to fruitless discussions, wanting to be teachers even though they do not understand either what they are saying or the matters about which they make confident assertions (1 Timothy 1:4-7).

What does God do to those whom think themselves wise and prudent? He will destroy their wisdom and confuse their understanding (1 Corinthians 1:19). Such is the path of those who speak much, thinking they are wiser and more prudent, and so it has become in this age where everyone has a podium at their fingertips. Much of the people are lost and confused in their understanding while they are puffed-up with the multitude of what they've presumed to have seen and learned, but they are undiscerned of how full of darkness they are; for they believe to discern spiritually and by God, but cannot understand the spiritual corruptions they've come to be loyal to.

Related to this are comments to a Times of Israel article, "As RFK Jr. pushes to stop fluoridation of water, US might want to look to Israel." It spoke about different reasons for removing or keeping fluoride from drinking water and had reader comments that emphasized conspiracy theories: (my additional comments in blue; red highlighted comments are noted for further discussion)
NoaB: The idea that the fluoride that naturally occurs in water is the same thing as the toxic chemical slurry inserted by industry is irrational and insane. Clearly someone is brainwashed here or they drank too much fluoride growing up and now they can't think clearly. You can look at Oregon and see fluoride is NOT good or needed. Never had it, and yet everybody is just fine. Israelis have to deal with the incredible trauma of being bombed every day and those children having to go to bombs shelters all the time. Stress and trauma changes the microbiome in the mouth. You cannot blame it on fluoride in the water! The type of Fluoride put in water is not the "safer" kind but a toxic industrial waste substance that cannot be contained anywhere else. It eats right through every container possible. Only diluted in water can they get rid of that byproduct. And it is dangerous. It is a correlation not a causation to look at oral health in Israel.

me_notyou90250: Fluoride is indeed industrial waste. Aluminum factories did not know what to do with the fluoride waste - how the hell it got into water and toothpaste and mouthwash has got to be more funky and aberrated than the Mrna pLandemic vaxx -

I googled: fluoride byproduct of aluminum

AI results top of search page:

Yes, fluoride is a byproduct of aluminum production.

During the smelting process, aluminum oxide (bauxite) is mixed with cryolite (sodium aluminum fluoride) and coal to produce aluminum metal. As a byproduct, fluoride gas is released.

This fluoride gas is typically captured and converted into hydrofluoric acid, which is used in various industrial applications, including:

Production of aluminum fluoride (AlF3), Etching glass, Manufacturing of pesticides and refrigerants, and Treatment of water for dental health.

It's important to note that the fluoride released during aluminum production is not typically a significant environmental concern, as it is captured and processed. However, high concentrations of fluoride can be harmful to humans and animals.

Minister Ty Alexander [in response to me_notyou]: I would not rely on AI to research or analyze for you, knowing how these systems cannot truly think or reason, nor replace the true intelligence of God's creations whom were designed by Him to be like Him. Please study the AI Morality article I have at 3rdCompassORG if you want to see how bad AI is for the peoples.

mansikkamarmeladi [in response to NoaB]: Doesn't Oregon have a high level of naturally occurring fluoride in ground water?

NoaB: Nope! We have lithia in our water. And some parts have large amounts of arsenic. So we have filters that take out fluoride and arsenic just to drink safe water. Besides. The type of fluoride that naturally occurs in water is NOT the industrial waste version that is put in artificially. Someone further up in the comments put a great study in to let you know about this [referring to me_notyou's comments above]. It is a byproduct of the aluminum manufacturing industry that has put in your water. It is bound to the wrong chemical because we don't just get the element of fluoride. It has to be tied to another element to be a complete molecule. The type that nature put in the water is a completely different kind that does not damage the body the same way.

Minister Ty Alexander: Why is it that people dismiss the large negative effects in dental health after removing fluoride in municipal water in many different areas while they hype up "industrial waste" and unproven conspiracies? The sensible ones will look further and do proper unbiased research. They'd see that fluoride is already naturally occurring in water and different foods, and U.S. water supplies have been fluoridated decades before I was born and I've been living on fluoridated water all my life, yet it is certain that I did not get any chronic health problems from fluoride.

What is certain is the sins in your lives are the root causes for the peoples' problems, so I would look to that first and keep fluoride in the water and keep using it for dental health, so that tooth decay does not skyrocket underneath the troubles the people already make for themselves.

Yet despite logical reasoning, people back the leadership and reform of those whom are incompetent with making right judgments, such as JFK Jr. and the entire Trump loyalist camp. Still, it is by El Elyon, God Most High, these sort come to power, but it is for reasons their loyalists cannot discern. The peoples will be put under a veil to further darken their minds, for they have shown their loyalties to what is not right and true, and allowed depravities to think and act for them believing God is with them. Such is this corrupt generation.

Additional notes about article comments
One commentor, NoaB, said the state of Oregon never had or needed fluoride in its water systems. Oregon is one of the states with the lowest amount of water fluoridation (fluoridation of water supplies is under local, not federal management), but many of Oregon's cities do add fluoride to their water. An Oregon Health Authority publication notes that 22% of Oregon residents have fluoridated water as opposed to about 75% across the U.S.[1.1]. NoaB said Oregon residents never needed fluoride, but a recent article about a vote to remove fluoride in the small city of Lebanon, Oregon notes that long-time residents remember the days of non-fluoridated water had widespread tooth decay in children[1.2].

NoaB also said Oregon water had lithia, which sounds like a lethal chemical (it is related to lithium which is used to make batteries), but I found no widespread indication of lithia water in Oregon, and in fact, I found that natural lithia water is very rare and is simply a form of mineral water that many people consider beneficial to drink[1.3, 1.4, 1.5]. NoaB might have gotten notions of widespread lithia in Oregon because Ashland, Oregon has a famous lithia water spring.

Lithia and lithium do have medical benefits, but like other minerals, the concentration you ingest very much affects the outcome. The same goes for fluoride, which can be harmful and even deadly in high concentrations. However, put that in perspective, because even plain sodium (salt) is very bad for you and deadly if you consume it in excessive quantity.

And consider chlorine, such as chlorine bleach, a highly toxic chemical, can also be deadly but is also used to sanitize our water. Why aren't people raving about removing chlorine from water systems? I can smell the chlorine coming from my city tap water and I've used it to make well water suitable for drinking. I'm not worried about drinking it. Without chlorine or other chemicals, like iodine, or good but expensive filtration methods, you'd be drinking bacteria, viruses, and parasites from either human waste water or natural runoff that supplies the ground water from local wells. What sounds more healthy?

And what about fluoride coming from “industrial waste”? Is the fluoride put in our water different from natural fluoride? What I found about this is that there are many different kinds of fluoride that municipalities put into water systems, and you cannot say that all of it comes from industrial byproducts, nor specifically always aluminum smelting as suggested by a commentor.

Furthermore, just because a chemical or mineral is a byproduct of an industrial process does not mean it should automatically be labelled a poison or regarded as a useless hazard.

My point in these comments is that conspiracists and false teachers share a common methodology. They are all given to poor analysis, uneducated judgments, and ultra-biased thinking that overblows both positive and negative things and removes needed context, so that their corrupt and incorrect interpretation of things appear to be sound thinking and logical. This applies to all reason and analysis that includes scripture and spiritual matters, as well as, every other discipline.

These faults in proper discernment and wisdom are what God has shown me in decades of analysis of His people’s many corrupt doctrines and teachings. He used my background in the sciences to help with this learning, so may you heed the many warnings God has given through this ministry about believing in and spreading what is false. Truly, those who spread it are accursed (Galatians 1:8-9), which is no small reason why so many are cursed to be blind to what has blinded them.

Praise be to Yahovah Sabaoth El Shaddai, Yahovah of hosts God Almighty, for His many wonders in guiding me to much needed corrections in both me and His people.


For more details and analysis about the fluoride toxicity report used by a federal court decision
that said there was "unreasonable risk of injury" in its use, see Why bad things happen...


References
[1.1] "Current Research on the Safety and Effectiveness of Fluoride". Oregon Health Authority. Retrieved 2024 Dec. 29.
<https://www.oregon.gov/oha/PH/PREVENTIONWELLNESS/ORALHEALTH/SCHOOL/Documents/School-Fluoride-Program-Research-Presentation.pdf>

[1.2] Zane Sparling. "A small Oregon city is in the national spotlight over fluoride". The Oreganian. 2024 Nov. 20. Retrieved 2024 Dec. 29.
<https://www.oregonlive.com/politics/2024/11/a-small-oregon-city-is-in-the-national-spotlight-over-fluoride.html>

[1.3] "Lithia water". Wikipedia. Retrieved 2024 Dec. 29.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithia_water>

[1.4] "The Health Benefits of Lithia Water". blipfoto blog. 2019 Jul. 14. Retrieved 2024 Dec. 29.
<https://www.blipfoto.com/entry/4581115>

[1.5] Mahmoud Shelton. "Viewpoint: The virtues of Ashland’s Lithia Water". Ashland.news. 2023 Dec. 27. Retrieved 2024 Dec. 29.
<https://ashland.news/viewpoint-the-virtues-of-ashlands-lithia-water>

What was behind Charlie Kirk Assassination? 9/12/2025
Updated 9/14/2025

The recent assassination of far right Christian leader and Donald Trump loyalist, Charlie Kirk, is at the top of discussions, but unfortunately, people continue to blame all the same things, like they did when I talked about the Annunciation Church school shooting. They only see gun control problems or blame things like violent video games. To address the issues related to Kirk's assassination, I commented on two Times of Israel articles and copy it here because Kirk's assassination aligns with this thread's main topic of trusting popular Christian and spiritual leaders.

Comments to "Do our souls still shudder?" about so many children and youth seeing the video of Kirk's assassination and not being too desensitized to violence so that you'd remain vigilant against it:
Francine Gordon: So exquisitely written from a place of experience and integrity. My soul is shuddering. I remember a USA where political violence like this was beyond the pale. Decades of violent video games and screen images have contributed to this erosion of our moral code.

Gazeff: Exactly when was that?!? The US has a long history of political violence, from the assassination of Lincoln to the Kennedys, MLK, Malcolm X, the attempts at Reagan and Gifford… Video games have nothing to do with it.

Minister Ty Alexander: As Gazeff said, this is not all about video games and political violence has a long history in the States. What happened to Kirk is more about the decades long corrosion of good morals and good spiritual teaching in society; where sex and violence, hubris and hedonism, idolatry and greed of all kinds including spiritual, and lies and false teachings are exalted in all kinds of media that is approved, consumed, and idolized by the average everyday citizen, including peoples of devout faith who unfortunately naively accept false teachings that they think is good and true when it is actually corrupting and darkening their souls.

As a spreader of such darkness, Charlie Kirk's hateful[2.2 and arrogant stance in his false and bad doctrine is actually what killed him. Good teachers for God know how to be humble, yet firm when they teach and rebuke. Those who cross the line are severely rebuked by El Elyon, God Most High, for truly, He will judge His people and gives no partiality but judges righteously as HaShaphat, The Judge, whom holds spiritual teachers and leaders even more accountable for their wrongs than the everyday citizen. So even if you are not anointed by God to teach or speak yet still claim leadership and teaching roles in the name of God, then you can expect to be held accountable for your stewardship of God's image and virtues. So do not be quick to assume to be teachers of El Elyon.

Comments to "When words fall silent: Reflections on the murder of Charlie Kirk" about the shock of his killing but keeping on with the debate and fight for truth and what is right as he did with "civil" debate. I put civil in quotes because Kirk's character actually was not civil even though he presented himself as smiling and likeable. The author also reminded people to ask God during the coming High Holidays to restore the people to prosperity and glory like the days of old with the Hebrew prayer, "Hashiveinu Avinu ve-nashuvah, chadesh yameinu k’kedem," so they would return to civility and remain "captives of hope" for a bright future (Zechariah/Zecharya 9:12):
Minister Ty Alexander: Kirk's assassination was no shock to me, as I have seen all the peoples of God come under the judgment of Yahovah Shabaoth ([God/Lord] of hosts), especially more so these past years after the windows of heaven were opened and the foundations of the earth shook (Yeshayahu/Isaiah 24:18). God does not stand idly by these days of trouble, but it is lamentable still that the peoples of God do not understand where their judgment comes from (see God’s Alarm for more, https://3rdcompass.org/g?GODS-CORAL-ALARM).

There is value in healthy debate (the “primacy of words” as Uriel says), but when it comes to the teachings of God and in fact all spiritual teachings, healthy debate has been absent for millennia because what happens in the arguing of doctrine is that most of those who debate have no idea what good and true teaching is, nor do they properly discern what is right and true, though they may confidently exclaim they are correct, and so when you mix a bag of lies and corrupt teachings with a few specks of truth, what sort of aggregate do you think always comes out?

Truly lamentable, my people. It is not how civil your debates are, but what you hold to be true that actually helps or hurts you. If only you knew how to pray and apply, “Hashiveinu Avinu ve-nashuvah, chadesh yameinu k’kedem.”

Charlie Kirk did not know how and El Elyon, God Most High, gave severe rebuke because he was a hateful[2.2] and arrogant spreader of lies and false doctrine; he died for multiplying sins, for spreading false teachings is a sin and God hates the arrogant. Good teachers for God know how to be humble, yet firm when they teach and rebuke. Those who cross the line are severely rebuked by El Elyon, so truly, you have seen He will judge His people and He gives no partiality but judges righteously as HaShaphat, The Judge, whom holds spiritual teachers and leaders even more accountable for their wrongs than the everyday citizen. He will judge you by your deeds, not by appearance, so being likable, like Kirk was, gives no reprieve if you remain in sin.

So even if you are not anointed by God to teach or speak yet still claim leadership and teaching roles in the name of God, then you can expect to be held more accountable for your stewardship of God's image and virtues. So do not be quick to assume to be teachers of El Elyon and do not be overzealous to argue and debate your teachings, for the eyes of all are dark under the veils of what is not right nor true. I have not seen one place clean among my people.

[Update 9/14/2025] 
Focusing on Gun Control
The continued discussion about gun control had me comment on another Times of Israel article written by the director of New Yorkers Against Gun Violence. She argued for better gun control laws because the proliferation of guns made everyday life less safe for everyone. She said more guns in the hands of everyday people enabled more domestic abuse and deadly violence everywhere. This was a concern for activists when Israel loosened gun permit licensing after the October 7, 2023 Hamas attack. However, I knew guns being less available to the public would not keep people safer, especially when God had guided me on gun control before (Domestic violence stats also affirm that even after October 7th when domestic violence doubled, guns were not the most common way abusers harmed women[2.1]).

My comments to "Hate is on the rise but guns don’t make Jews safer":
Minister Ty Alexander: More sensible gun control laws would help, but less guns would not stop the violence nor more tragedies happening. People will use whatever they have available as weapons and there is no shortage of ways to make other lethal arms. Guns really aren't the problem as others here have said, but no one understands what is actually driving these trends of tragedy after tragedy, never again, said again and again.

People of God should know better where their woes come from, but they've been so long under veils of darkness with their faulty ideologies and bad focuses that they cannot see why "never again" keeps happening. But God has guided about gun violence and its roots (for details, see https://3rdcompass.org/g?FAULT-UVALDE). Who will see and hear?

Controlling guns is not the answer. It is controlling the very first points of origin that culminate into "never again," again and again, because if God was with you, you'd not need to lament and mourn so, for don't you remember, my brothers and sisters? God can rout an army with one man, He can protect the poor and naked from all evils, but why is it that El Shaddai, God Almighty, must withdraw from you so that there is always fresh mourning?

Focusing on Keeping the Fight Alive
Something to be concerned about, not fervent about as many think should happen, was that Erika Kirk, Charlie Kirk's widow, and many of his other followers vowed to continue his fight and ministry. Some exalt him as a martyr, and many news outlets quote Erika saying her "cries would echo around the world like a battle cry."

She said she would continue his ministry and I heard many others saying their fight would continue. When I heard this, all I could think was that they were only escalating the deadly arms race between ultra-conservative and other camps, the misguided "holy crusader" against the equally misguided jihadist. It will only end in more violent tragedy because I know how this fight will end; both crusader and jihadist will be completely torn apart and destroyed. So it is my suggestion to have temperance and wisdom and remain apart from the crusades and people in them. May you instead walk with me where God's providence abides. Let it be in the name of Mashiach Yeshua. Amen.


References
[2.1] Diana Bletter. "Domestic violence rates nearly doubled since Oct. 7. Eight women were murdered in 2024". The Times of Israel. 2024 Jun. 8. Retrieved 2025 Sep. 14.

[2.2] Aaron Morrison, Jayleen Green. "Black church leaders reject Charlie Kirk martyrdom and point to his race rhetoric". Associated Press. 2025 Sep. 24. Retrieved 2025 Sep. 25.
<https://apnews.com/article/charlie-kirk-death-black-pastors-reaction-sermons-222eb811b6681d29ccbb0547955ac42b>



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